What to do with ten.wikipedia.org in the future

[Steven Walling]

Hi everyone,

So quite some time has passed since Wikipedia’s 10th anniversary, and now
that things are starting to wind down, it’s time to consider what we want to
do with ten.wikipedia.org (AKA tenwiki, if you use interwiki links). We’re
in no rush to act, and I know there are a few celebrations yet to happen,
but I thought it was good to start thinking about this now that we’re well
past the rush of January 15th.

>From the start, one of the reasons I was comfortable starting “yet another
wiki” was that I figured that after the anniversary was over there would be
no need to leave it up indefinitely, requiring upkeep from the community and
staff.

There are lots ideas that have been mentioned casually. For example: at the
last community IRC meeting there was a suggestion for it to be merged with
Meta.[1] In general I’m agnostic on the matter, though I do a have a couple
general goals...

With that frame of mind, I’ve opened a discussion at the tenwiki Village
Pump with some of the various options I’ve heard or thought of.[2] Please
add your ideas there, especially if you’ve been a part of the crew of
editors who’ve worked to maintain the site over the past several months.

If you haven’t heard me say it before: thank you for helping the site grow
so quickly in those past months while staying free of vandalism/spam. The
whole idea would have been a disaster if it wasn't for your hard work.[3]

(On a related note: Jay Walsh and I have been working on some reports to
wrap up the Foundation's major work on the 10th anniversary, one of which is
the start of a page about running any global, distributed event in the
Wikimedia movement. Jay is currently consumed by another deadline, but we're
hoping to publish that work soon.)

Thanks!

<http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics>--
Steven Walling
Fellow at Wikimedia Foundation
wikimediafoundation.org

1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_meetings/2011-02-05
2.
http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump#Ideas_for_what_to_do_with_tenwiki_in_the_future
3. http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics

[Jeremy Baron]

Keep in mind there's more tenwiki events that haven't occurred yet.

e.g. anniversaries for other languages.

-Jeremyb
On Mar 21, 2011 9:58 PM, "Steven Walling" <swalling-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

[Steven Walling]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Jeremy Baron <jeremy-mpUk35sXFjzz1n+***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Keep in mind there's more tenwiki events that haven't occurred yet.
>
> e.g. anniversaries for other languages.
>
> -Jeremyb
>
Yeah, I don't think we need to do anything immediately, but we should
probably start planning, since there has been very little activity lately on
the site.

--
Steven Walling
Fellow at Wikimedia Foundation
wikimediafoundation.org

[KIZU Naoko]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jeremy Baron <jeremy-mpUk35sXFjzz1n+***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Keep in mind there's more tenwiki events that haven't occurred yet.
>
> e.g. anniversaries for other languages.

Good suggestions: anniversaries on March and May respectively. IIRC
some European people are planning anniversaries on coming May or later
when their home wiki reaches the 10th year milestone.

Too early to discuss its closure perhaps?
>
> -Jeremyb
>
> On Mar 21, 2011 9:58 PM, "Steven Walling" <swalling-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
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Speaking of which, I couldn't attend an event and I'm not sure if there was
anything available at the event... is there anyway I could obtain such
merchandise?

On , Steven Walling <swalling-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Jeremy Baron jeremy-mpUk35sXFjzz1n+***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:





> Keep in mind there's more tenwiki events that haven't occurred yet.


> eg anniversaries for other languages.


> -Jeremyb
> Yeah, I don't think we need to do anything immediately, but we should
> probably start planning, since there has been very little activity lately
> on the site.
> --




> Steven WallingFellow at Wikimedia Foundation
> wikimediafoundation.org

[Lucien leGrey]

Steven: We have not received any merchandising item yet (I'm referring to
the Wikimedia Spain package to Compostela)... Do you receive my messages?
(may be my address is in any spam filter :()

Best regards,

2011/3/22 <fridaesdoom-***@public.gmane.org>

> Speaking of which, I couldn't attend an event and I'm not sure if there was
> anything available at the event... is there anyway I could obtain such
> merchandise?
>
> On , Steven Walling <swalling-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Jeremy Baron jeremy-mpUk35sXFjzz1n+***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Keep in mind there's more tenwiki events that haven't occurred yet.
> >
> >
> > e.g. anniversaries for other languages.
> >
> >
> > -Jeremyb
> > Yeah, I don't think we need to do anything immediately, but we should
> probably start planning, since there has been very little activity lately on
> the site.
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Steven WallingFellow at Wikimedia Foundation
> > wikimediafoundation.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[Ted Chien]

We also haven't received the merchandise for Wikimedia Taiwan, will it be
shipped?

Regards,
Ted Chien
-- Sent from my Nexus One.
LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien

Support Free Knowledge:
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2011-3-22 䞋午4:44 æ–Œ "Lucien leGrey" <***@gmail.com> 寫道
> Steven: We have not received any merchandising item yet (I'm referring to
> the Wikimedia Spain package to Compostela)... Do you receive my messages?
> (may be my address is in any spam filter :()
>
> Best regards,
>
> 2011/3/22 <fridaesdoom-***@public.gmane.org>
>
>> Speaking of which, I couldn't attend an event and I'm not sure if there
was
>> anything available at the event... is there anyway I could obtain such
>> merchandise?
>>
>> On , Steven Walling <swalling-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Jeremy Baron jeremy-mpUk35sXFjzz1n+***@public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Keep in mind there's more tenwiki events that haven't occurred yet.
>> >
>> >
>> > e.g. anniversaries for other languages.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Jeremyb
>> > Yeah, I don't think we need to do anything immediately, but we should
>> probably start planning, since there has been very little activity lately
on
>> the site.
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Steven WallingFellow at Wikimedia Foundation
>> > wikimediafoundation.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> WikiX-l mailing list
>> WikiX-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+***@public.gmane.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikix-l
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> ¡Participa en Wikimedia España!: http://www.wikimedia.org.es/

[FT2]

This is a generic problem. There are many "temporary project" or "fixed
life" wikis (not necessarily a bad thing, they provide focus). There will be
more in future. Hence cross-posting this thought here.

Maybe a subdomain "archive.wikimedia.org" could be set up, with old closed
wikis marked as non-editable and moved to subdomains of this, and an index
of archived wikis available on the front index page? So when it's no longer
in use, "ten" would end up at "ten.archive.wikimedia.org" (with the old
domain redirected) and be readily located by anyone interested future.

FT2


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Ted Chien <hsiangtai.chien-***@public.gmane.org>wrote:

> We also haven't received the merchandise for Wikimedia Taiwan, will it be
> shipped?
>
> Regards,
> Ted Chien
> -- Sent from my Nexus One.
> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
>
> Support Free Knowledge:
> http://donate.wikimedia.org
> 2011-3-22 䞋午4:44 æ–Œ "Lucien leGrey" <***@gmail.com> 寫道
>
> > Steven: We have not received any merchandising item yet (I'm referring to
> > the Wikimedia Spain package to Compostela)... Do you receive my messages?
> > (may be my address is in any spam filter :()
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > 2011/3/22 <fridaesdoom-***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> >> Speaking of which, I couldn't attend an event and I'm not sure if there
> was
> >> anything available at the event... is there anyway I could obtain such
> >> merchandise?
> >>
> >> On , Steven Walling <swalling-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Jeremy Baron jeremy-mpUk35sXFjzz1n+***@public.gmane.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Keep in mind there's more tenwiki events that haven't occurred yet.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > e.g. anniversaries for other languages.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -Jeremyb
> >> > Yeah, I don't think we need to do anything immediately, but we should
> >> probably start planning, since there has been very little activity
> lately on
> >> the site.
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Steven WallingFellow at Wikimedia Foundation
> >> > wikimediafoundation.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> WikiX-l mailing list
> >> WikiX-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+***@public.gmane.org
> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikix-l
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > + Lucien
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ¡Participa en Wikimedia España!: http://www.wikimedia.org.es/
>
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[Steven Walling]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:48 AM, FT2 <ft2.wiki-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> This is a generic problem. There are many "temporary project" or "fixed
> life" wikis (not necessarily a bad thing, they provide focus). There will be
> more in future. Hence cross-posting this thought here.
>
> Maybe a subdomain "archive.wikimedia.org" could be set up, with old
> closed wikis marked as non-editable and moved to subdomains of this, and an
> index of archived wikis available on the front index page? So when it's no
> longer in use, "ten" would end up at "ten.archive.wikimedia.org" (with the
> old domain redirected) and be readily located by anyone interested future.
>
> FT2
>

Thanks for the idea FT2, and to everyone who commented so far.

--
Steven Walling
Fellow at Wikimedia Foundation
wikimediafoundation.org

[Jay Walsh]

Hi all - if you have merchandise related requests, please send them to me for the time being with a CC to Steven Walling. I'm taking over the distribution of merchandise and reviewing a process for sending out merchandise going forward (whether it's for WP 10 or other projects in the future).

Some of your requests may have resulted in package returns to us due to customs issues. I can sort those out for you.

Thanks,
jay walsh

On Mar 22, 2011, at 3:05 AM, Ted Chien wrote:

> We also haven't received the merchandise for Wikimedia Taiwan, will it be shipped?
>
> Regards,
> Ted Chien
> -- Sent from my Nexus One.
> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
>
> Support Free Knowledge:
> http://donate.wikimedia.org
>
> 2011-3-22 䞋午4:44 æ–Œ "Lucien leGrey" <lucienlegrey-***@public.gmane.org> 寫道
> > Steven: We have not received any merchandising item yet (I'm referring to
> > the Wikimedia Spain package to Compostela)... Do you receive my messages?
> > (may be my address is in any spam filter :()
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > 2011/3/22 <fridaesdoom-***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> >> Speaking of which, I couldn't attend an event and I'm not sure if there was
> >> anything available at the event... is there anyway I could obtain such
> >> merchandise?
> >>
> >> On , Steven Walling <swalling-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Jeremy Baron jeremy-mpUk35sXFjzz1n+***@public.gmane.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Keep in mind there's more tenwiki events that haven't occurred yet.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > e.g. anniversaries for other languages.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -Jeremyb
> >> > Yeah, I don't think we need to do anything immediately, but we should
> >> probably start planning, since there has been very little activity lately on
> >> the site.
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Steven WallingFellow at Wikimedia Foundation
> >> > wikimediafoundation.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> WikiX-l mailing list
> >> WikiX-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+***@public.gmane.org
> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikix-l
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > + Lucien
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
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[Lucien leGrey]

Done :)

Thanks, Jay,

2011/3/22 Jay Walsh <jwalsh-***@public.gmane.org>

> Hi all - if you have merchandise related requests, please send them to me
> for the time being with a CC to Steven Walling. I'm taking over the
> distribution of merchandise and reviewing a process for sending out
> merchandise going forward (whether it's for WP 10 or other projects in the
> future).
>
> Some of your requests may have resulted in package returns to us due to
> customs issues. I can sort those out for you.
>
> Thanks,
> jay walsh
>
> On Mar 22, 2011, at 3:05 AM, Ted Chien wrote:
>
> We also haven't received the merchandise for Wikimedia Taiwan, will it be
> shipped?
>
> Regards,
> Ted Chien
> -- Sent from my Nexus One.
> LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
>
> Support Free Knowledge:
> http://donate.wikimedia.org
> 2011-3-22 䞋午4:44 æ–Œ "Lucien leGrey" <***@gmail.com> 寫道
> > Steven: We have not received any merchandising item yet (I'm referring to
> > the Wikimedia Spain package to Compostela)... Do you receive my messages?
> > (may be my address is in any spam filter :()
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > 2011/3/22 <fridaesdoom-***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> >> Speaking of which, I couldn't attend an event and I'm not sure if there
> was
> >> anything available at the event... is there anyway I could obtain such
> >> merchandise?
> >>
> >> On , Steven Walling <swalling-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Jeremy Baron jeremy-mpUk35sXFjzz1n+***@public.gmane.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Keep in mind there's more tenwiki events that haven't occurred yet.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > e.g. anniversaries for other languages.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -Jeremyb
> >> > Yeah, I don't think we need to do anything immediately, but we should
> >> probably start planning, since there has been very little activity
> lately on
> >> the site.
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Steven WallingFellow at Wikimedia Foundation
> >> > wikimediafoundation.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> WikiX-l mailing list
> >> WikiX-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+***@public.gmane.org
> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikix-l
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > + Lucien
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ¡Participa en Wikimedia España!: http://www.wikimedia.org.es/
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>
>
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